SAS Tactical Survival Bow VS Primal Gear Unlimited Survival Bow

SAS Tactical Survival Bow VS Primal Gear Unlimited Survival Bow

Here is a comparison video between the SAS and the PGU. Comparing the two bows in materials, arrow speed, poundage, penetration, decibels, special features, and comfort. This has been an interesting and long video of testing processes and research to insure and capture the differences and similarities. Both bow performed very well in the testing processes and are great tools. It really comes down to personal preference and special features when deciding which bow is better suited for your needs. Hope you enjoy the video, and please comment with any questions thank you.

Primal Gear Unlimited Survival Bow
Purchase link http://www.goprimalnow.com/Compact_Folding_Survival_Bow_s/1826.htm
• The patent pending CFSB converts from RH to LH easily
• arrow speeds averaging 181 feet per second
• draw weight 47 lbs at 26″, 52″ at 27″, 55 Lbs at 28″. Higher for longer draw lengths
• Take it down to change the limbs or convert RH to LH, fold it up to transport.
• 23″ long by 1.5 x 1.5 closed. 59″ long open
• weighing in at 2.25 lbs.
• 23″ aircraft grade T6 6061 aluminum riser with limb locking bolts, 55 lbs. at 28″ draw, 18″ limbs, Endless loop Dacron string, owners manual.

SAS Folding Survival bow
Purchase link http://www.survivalarcherysystems.com/products/tactical-survival-bow
Technical Information:
• Bow type – Modern Longbow
• Draw weight – 50 and 55 pounds at 28 inch draw
• Maximum draw length – 31 inches
• Bow Length – 60 inches (strung), 21 (inches folded/stored)
• Brace Height – 7-8 inches recommended depending on your draw length
• Arrows speed – Up to 200 ft/s for 50 pound version and up to 210 ft/s for 55 pound version
• String compatibility – B50 Dacron
• Backpack/storage bag – Camo carry case (pattern may vary from photo shown) with adjustable straps and fully closing storage compartment for string and other accessories.
• Strung bow weight – 1kg (2.2 pounds)

Calculations for arrow speed
Average loss of 10 fps per inch of draw length
Average loss per 5 grains on arrow weight is 1 fps
Human release factor vs machine 5 fps
Brass nock 3-5 fps loss
Peep sight 5-10 fps loss
Silancers 2-3 fps loss

Kinetic energy calculator and chart in references
IBO and AMO standards in refereances

Here are some of the References;
Archery magazine https://www.nfaausa.com/archery-magazine/
Archery http://www.briansarchery.com/pages/archery-tips-nh.php
kinetic energy calculator https://www.goldtip.com/calculators.aspx
5: SPEED & KINETIC ENERGY http://www.huntersfriend.com/archery-help/hunting-target-arrows-selection-guide-chapter-5.html
AMO VS IBO BOW SPEED http://www.archeryexchange.com/shopcontent.asp?type=amoibo
COMPOUND BOW IBO SPEEDS EXPLAINED http://www.huntersfriend.com/_help_popups/whatsthis11.htm
AMO explained Archery talk http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1201897
What’s Your Bow’s REAL Speed? http://bestcompoundbowsource.com/whats-bows-real-speed/

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Comments

  1. moonspirit1
    moonspirit1 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    SAS is 60 pds and PGU is 50 pd draw, is that correct?

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  2. Michael Stone
    Michael Stone 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Great comparison video, thanks for it. Although I'm still undecided which one I want (why not both?) lol

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  3. uptrail71
    uptrail71 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    My bow is almost 30 years old. It's been years since I last used it, but it shot a lot of deer. Great Video! Bob

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  4. Roger Williams
    Roger Williams 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Hey, I must ask, did the SAS grow on you yet? I saw two other people compare these bows and they both seemed to agree the SAS seemed far durable. Really looking for a SHTF weapon.

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  5. GoWild Outdoors
    GoWild Outdoors 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Very interesting, great comparison!

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  6. ggpaintballer
    ggpaintballer 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Is that the correct orientation for the bear weather rest? The manufacturers website, and other recurves I've seen don't have it mounted like that. Is it a matter of preference?

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  7. Kai Auroline
    Kai Auroline 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Thanks for a very comprehensive comparison on the two survival bows that you had just mentioned. Just curious about a few things;
    1) Since the PGU seems to have a cut-in in the receiver that decreases on the archers' paradox, wouldn't that make it actually ok to use for both plastic vanes/feathers? I know feathered arrows would fly straighter regardless of either bow, but just wanted to clarify.
    2) How does the PGU feel in terms of draw(as you have shot with it for a really long time). Is it a nice smooth draw, or does it stack at any point?

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  8. wildernesscamp 85
    wildernesscamp 85 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    dude! this is a crazy good detailed review of these bows. you killed it!

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  9. carlos Rivera
    carlos Rivera 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    … thx for helping me decide which one… great video… HURRA

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  10. edward ford
    edward ford 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    I think that from a survivalist point of view the PGU beats the SAS in that there is nothing to lose when assembling the bow. The bolts dont come out, they live where they are & have only to be tightened. Conversely the SAS has loseable parts and once any of them are lost it becomes an expensive club. The fact that you mention to buy "extra" bolts speaks to this flaw. Humans make mistakes and under any stress , even more mistakes. So it's only a matter of time till something is lost. The 2 inch difference may be the deciding factor for some but I'm gonna cut some wood to those two sizes & see how they fit in all my packs. Then I'll have some real world data of my own.
    Thank U for your time, effort, objectivity, attention to accuracy and detail.

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  11. 70Mack
    70Mack 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Great review, any experience with the 65lb draw SAS bow? How much more do you think the extra poundage would add to its performance???

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  12. James Blanton
    James Blanton 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    WoW ! Excellent and very detailed comparison which swayed me the way of the PGU, brilliant job mate, thanks for you're efforts, oh just subed and am looking forward to seeing more of you're work. Cheers

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  13. Steven Kim
    Steven Kim 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    I love the way you added the DIY quiver to your bow. I am stealing your slick idea. Call your lawyers.?

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  14. flashdamingo
    flashdamingo 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Maybe now compare the eBay clone of these bows next ?

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  15. Steve W
    Steve W 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Excellent comparison video. Just the type of information I needed. Thanks. A little information about the arrows you used would be helpful too.

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  16. John “survivor johnny” Tewelow
    John “survivor johnny” Tewelow 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Outstanding compairison and review. I'm posting this in a thread in the survival section of a forum I'm on. Great job brother

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  17. Turtle Bushcraft
    Turtle Bushcraft 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Great in-depth review of the 2 bows thanks for sharing atb John

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  18. live4wild
    live4wild 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Very detail test, Thanks Todd

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  19. Kent Nern
    Kent Nern 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    i think u installed your rest wrongly on the SAS. Put on some FF skinny strings, ull be amazed on how it will transform both bows. Both stock strings is a POS.

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  20. backyardmeat
    backyardmeat 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Very in depth side by comparison Todd, I bet both manufactures appreciate getting good quality info out about their products

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  21. 504 Dirt Dart
    504 Dirt Dart 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Interesting comparison!

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  22. Heith Gagnon
    Heith Gagnon 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Great comparison and review on both…You went right into everything they have to offer…Everyone has there own and different opinions Just like a Ford or a Chevy guy, lol…I never seen a bow like either one of them before…all the calculations were pretty darn close to each other…Hope all is good brother…If there is anyone out there with questions about either of these bows this video will definitely tell them what they need to no…

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  23. treesablowin
    treesablowin 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Look like nice products

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  24. Rimrock Outdoors
    Rimrock Outdoors 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Great job the on video Todd! Super informative and a great presentation. I know a lot of time and work had to go into gathering all the specs and data. Thumbs up my friend! Gonna have to buy the PGU!

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  25. easyprepper101
    easyprepper101 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    I know I asked you in the pass about the primal gear bow. Now you made my decision harder. Lol great video and like like you took the time to go over a lot of details. Thank you

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  26. EDC HOLLAND
    EDC HOLLAND 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    great comparison video man
    have a good day

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  27. BluegrassBushcraft
    BluegrassBushcraft 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Looks like great bows. Great video. Thanks for sharing.

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  28. derealovefestival
    derealovefestival 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Both bows look awesome and ideal for a bug out bag or every day use.
    Thanks Todd I am still not sure which bow to get but a good video full of solid information.
    God bless you.

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  29. HoRiOnS
    HoRiOnS 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    You just made THE best comparison video out there for these bows.
    I bought the PGU CFSB last week and really like it.
    And I was wondering what arrow specs are best for the different limbs that they have (I am new to archery).
    So I have the 40# and 55# limbs.
    What grain, point weight, length, etc should I go for with these two different limbs?
    Thanks in advance! :-)

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  30. Canadian Prepper
    Canadian Prepper 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Hey no shooting in the house! Jokes I do itonce in a while! This has to be the most thorough test I have ever seen of a bow comparison, must have taken a lot of time and research to do this review, I can appreciate how much work you put into this. Well done. DOes your PGU have a slight curve to it from all the shots you have taken over the years? I was lucky enough to get a 65# version, unfortunately they were discontinued so it had a lot more power than the 55#. I personally prefer the SAS as shooter, its more ergonomically suited to my hands. I find the PGU has more sharply corned edges which aren't compatible with my grip. I agree about archers paradoz and the potential bolt loss, I recall those where my two main issues. As you say it comes down to preference, I prefer the smaller more compact form factor and smooth grip, but it would be nice to have a shelf, a quicker setup and rubber grip! Thanks again for an amazing review, you really know your stuff far more than I, I learned a lot from this vid.,

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  31. SurviveN2
    SurviveN2 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    A very detailed test Todd, thanks for taking the time to do it ;-))

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  32. Doubletap
    Doubletap 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    great review, I appreciate the side by side comparison due to both bows seeming great which makes it hard to decide which one to get.

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  33. Aaron Rowe
    Aaron Rowe 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    The PGU looks like an awesome bow to take with me into the woods… Hopefully I'll get to purchase it soon! Thank you for the well thought out video and all of the effort that went into making it. Very very impressive.

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  34. AllThingsBushcraft
    AllThingsBushcraft 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    This is a great video! Thank you for doing this! Lots of good information. You just helped me make up my mind!

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  35. Bi0mad
    Bi0mad 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    I was pretty sold on the SAS Survival Bow after watching Canadian Prepper's review,
    but after this video I'm leaning toward to the Primal Gear one.
    Currently I have the Xpectre Spectre II. I'm planning to upgrade to PGU after familiarize myself with archery.
    Thanks for making very informative and in-depth review.

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  36. phyllis mulkey
    phyllis mulkey 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    great video

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  37. Shiny Knife
    Shiny Knife 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    nice video! Thumbs up

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  38. Nomad-76
    Nomad-76 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Awesome test video, I respect the time and effort that went into this video.

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  39. Colonelchimp, Bushcraft, Survival and Prepping
    Colonelchimp, Bushcraft, Survival and Prepping 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    good review buddy, to be honest either bow will be a great asset to anyone, there is not a lot to choose between them really, i guess in the end it comes down to personal preference, , keep it up buddy,

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  40. illyounotme
    illyounotme 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Great video and seems like you did a fair and in depth comparison for people to really get past the hype and choose between the two bows if they are trying to decide on one or the other.

    It might be interesting if you have access to a few popular take down bows, to do a similar video on them and compare the results to this video.

    I mention this as I have a Samick Sage TD recurve which is my pack and Bug out Bow. I got it before either of these bows become popular on the market. So when these bows came around, I never felt much more than a fleeting interest in them since I have a decent pack bow already. Only thing these offer over my TD recurve is both have a more compact travel design over a recure riser and limbs.

    I think folks might benefit in comparing these survival bows to a few TD bows that aren't necessarily "survival" but could be used in that roll. Is it worth the less streamlined travel package to use a TD bow due to a better performace or are these survival bows close enough in performance that they beat out the TD bows?

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  41. shane stanley
    shane stanley 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    cool bro

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  42. Sparta TV
    Sparta TV 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Класс !

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  43. Haitsi Lucero
    Haitsi Lucero 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    when I saw s.a.s..I had to tell you..I have there combat handbook..u.s. army munitions hand book.USMC hand to hand combat Manuel. shaleters shacks and shanties by D.C. BEARD

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  44. Primal Outdoors
    Primal Outdoors 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    First and for most great job on the video, camera work was really good, second very excellent review. As you know I got the opportunity to go out with you and shoot both bows and I have to say that the PGU was hands down the clear winner in my opinion, performance, accuracy and ease of use all fell in the favor of the PGU again in my opinion and I will be buying a PGU in the near future.

    Jason

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  45. Corcoran AL
    Corcoran AL 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Good video…!!!.))…

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  46. Bentley's Backwoods Bushcraft
    Bentley's Backwoods Bushcraft 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    very informative and detailed comparison.  I have, actually, been thinking about the SAS Tactical bow.

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  47. Frogtac's Sanctuary
    Frogtac's Sanctuary 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Very comprehensive testing!

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  48. Tony Ford
    Tony Ford 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Awesome video! You did not disappoint brother. I've been waiting for a detailed comparison of these two bows, although I kind of hand an idea of a couple issues I would have with one and not the other, which no surprise to me, you talked about. Extremely thorough and detailed!

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  49. guns4funcajanajustin
    guns4funcajanajustin 30 June, 2016, 14:45

    Thanks for the info. good stuff brother!

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